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Interview


Juan Mayr


I n t e r v i e w   w i t h  J u a n   M a y r

"A Milestone in Modern Biotechnology''

 
Dangerous ''Frankenstein'' products to some, a technological blessing to others, genetically modified organisms are still a mystery even to scientists, who have not been able to elucidate their true real risks. Despite the uncertainty, the world's environmental authorities decided to wait no longer and signed a Biosafety Protocol that will regulate international trade in such products.

Juan Mayr Maldonado, Minister of the Environment in Colombia and architect of the agreement, spoke with Tierramérica about the situation. Excerpts:

-TIERRAMERICA: There are suspicions that transgenics or genetically modified organisms (GMOs) may represent risks for humanity, but is there any concrete scientific evidence of cases in which these organisms have produced negative effects in human health or in the environment?

-MAYR: So far there is not enough scientific evidence about the risks that GMOs could pose for human health or the environment. Recently the results of a couple of studies were released that show, on one hand, the reduction of the monarch butterfly population in the United States presumably as a consequence of planting genetically modified maize and, on the other, the possible harmful effects that genetically modified potatoes that contain the CaMV 35S have on young mice. However, the conditions and the interests that influenced these experiments mean they are not very conclusive. The fundamental thing is that this dense fog of uncertainty, more than leading to hasty judgements of who is responsible, is a call for greater development of such research.

- For some sectors, it is apocalyptic to say that the release of GMOs would cause the catastrophic loss of biodiversity. What is your opinion?

- The adjective 'catastrophic' is in itself an exaggerated premise. There are insufficient elements to affirm that the release of GMOs would translate into a loss of biodiversity. The GMOs are part of that biodiversity, except they are not the result of the methods traditionally applied in improving species. GMOs did not create a previously non-existent situation of risk for biological diversity. It has been and continues being threatened by other factors such as deforestation, burning, the invasion of exotic species, among others, and one could add the products of modern biotechnology to the list. Furthermore, there are those who believe that GMOs represent an opportunity not only to reduce the environmental impact of pesticide use but also to preserve biodiversity to the extent that it would eliminate the need to expand farmland and thus would prevent the rampant deforestation we have seen in recent years.

- Many scientists think the lack of certainty in this field - as also occurs with the issue of climate change - should not stand in the way of decisive action. Is it this preventive stance that has inspired the efforts behind the Biosafety Protocol?

- Yes, the Precautionary Principle is the main axis of the Protocol and as such is the tool that prevents their goals from merely left on paper. This Principle impedes the lack of scientific certainty about GMOs from turning into an obstacle for each country to take appropriate decisions about importing such products. This is essential because in the environmental sphere preventive measures are always superior to the results of later corrective measures.

- Last May 24, the Protocol was signed in Cartagena after nearly five years of negotiations. How would you summarise its relevance to the world?

- The Protocol has great relevance at the global level in various respects. First because it is the product of a negotiation process that, despite being in the middle of a big controversy about biotechnology's ethical, socio-economic, environmental and public health repercussions, allowed us to achieve excellent results through transparent proceedings and innovative and participatory spaces for debate. Moreover, in this process, for the first time, international trade and the environmental agenda faced each other under equal conditions. And that is important because the protection of the environment has been subordinate to economic issues in the negotiation and implementation of other global agreements. The Protocol also marks a milestone in the development of modern biotechnology because not only does it provide a legal framework to promote regulation, but also because, through the Precautionary Principle, it creates the instruments so that the signing Parties protect their national interests as far as the preservation of biodiversity and human health.

- What concrete mechanisms allow the Biosafety Protocol to prevent or minimise the potential risks of GMOs?

- Together with the Principle of Precaution, the Protocol includes the Advanced Informed Agreement (AIA) mechanism. This procedure means that, prior to importing GMOs for use or trade, the exporting party must provide the necessary information so that all potential risks may be evaluated and appropriate decisions made. Without the express and written consent of the importing country, trans-border shipment of such products should not take place.

- The labelling issue has been quite controversial. Many sectors oppose labelling that is specific because of costs or the fear it could create among consumers. What type of regulations does the Biosafety Protocol include in this respect?

- In the Protocol it was established that those products arising from recombinant techniques involving genetic material must be labelled ''may contain'' GMOs. It was an important step related to the assessment of risk and to the reservations expressed by consumers and some non-governmental organisations about the use of biotechnology. However, according to Article 18, in a period no longer than two years after the Protocol has taken effect, the Parties will make a decision about the inclusion of the specific identity and any exclusive identification necessary for GMOs destined for intentional introduction into the environment.

- The Biosafety Protocol should now be entering the implementation phase. What comes next? What obstacles lie ahead?

- We continue to build institutional and human capacity in the areas of biosafety and biotechnology. This involves the creation of a regulatory framework, an administrative framework, and of mechanisms for risk assessment, decision-making, information management and participation of interested parties and civil society. This process will take time, but obstacle in the short term is financing. Though the Protocol contains provisions for international co-operation in capacity building and the transfer of technology, developing countries must find additional alternatives to obtain resources. For the time being, one option is to manage these issues at the sub-regional level.

- Has there been progress in national legislation on the issue? Because the big question is, who would pay for the environmental damage caused by GMOs?

- In Colombia, as in other developing countries, there are working groups to reinforce the existing legislation and develop the necessary regulations. But the problem of responsibility and compensation for potential environmental damages is something that still needs to be resolved. Though the Protocol's Article 27 includes a clause that obligates the Parties to initiate a process to develop a regimen of responsibility and compensation within four years following the Conference of Parties (to the Convention on Biological Diversity), little progress has been made in international environmental law, in part due to the resistance of some industrialised countries.








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